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From: China 山东(shan dong) 济宁(ji ning ) @paulfox1 Time : 2019-11-14 13:26:18 #29


@roughdiamond

Your comment, "and look at the odd pretty woman" - why would a pretty woman be 'odd'?

As for my 'spin', if I gave you a list of 100 reasons why I'm here, would you believe me? How would you know I am being truthful?

You'd certainly believe me if I told you that I am here simply to make a complete nuisance of myself; wind-up people such as Melcyan; offer arrogance in my comments; be rude and unkind to ladies, etc, yet these are NOT 'reasons' why I am here.

Look at Melcyan's comment above and you'll understand exactly what I mean. I stated that I always respect women - that does NOT mean I have to respect a woman's attitude if I find it offensive, so what's the POINT of listing reasons as to why I am here?

From: Australia Victoria Thomastown @roughdiamond Time : 2019-11-15 16:25:27 #30


@paulfox1

~~ I stated that I always respect women - that does NOT mean I have to respect a woman's attitude if I find it offensive

actualy Paul it does

as now i am showing you respect yet not agreeing with your comment

From: Australia South Australia Adelaide @melcyan Time : 2019-11-15 21:09:46 #31

You Are Pathetic ...... SOME Western men!

 

You need to try this winning forum title next. I am sure all the men here will find it respectful.

From: Australia South Australia Adelaide @melcyan Time : 2019-11-16 07:58:48 #32

@paulfox1

 

"You'd certainly believe me if I told you that I am here simply to make a complete nuisance of myself; wind-up people such as Melcyan; offer arrogance in my comments; be rude and unkind to ladies, etc, yet these are NOT 'reasons' why I am here."

 

The only form of communication we have here is the written word. You may argue that what you write and what you respect can be two different things. I am arguing that when you are talking about relationships with Chinese women, what you write over and over again here on CLM provides the only window for Chinese women have to see what you disrespect/respect.

 

Merely repeating the words "ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS" and "I HAVE, AND ALWAYS WILL, TREAT WOMEN WITH THE UTMOST RESPECT."  conveys nothing.  These words alone amount to little more than SPIN. Instead of repeating these phrases, try describing your past and present actions that show how much you respect women.

From: China 山东(shan dong) 济宁(ji ning ) @paulfox1 Time : 2019-11-16 12:38:40 #33


@roughdiamond

Then respectfully, we'll agree to disagree. With respect, of course.

From: China 山东(shan dong) 济宁(ji ning ) @paulfox1 Time : 2019-11-16 12:45:41 #34


@melcyan

I have written over 100 blogs on CLM. Some are extremely positive towards Chinese women, others not so. In all cases I am speaking from experience, as, I believe, do all bloggers here.

I'm not going to provide BS just in case a Chinese lady may be 'put off' by what I write. Trust is based on honesty. If a person is not honest, how can they be trusted?

I started this thread in order to highlight what I saw to be unacceptable behaviour coming from a Chinese woman. I had hoped that other Chinese ladies might read it, and understand that there are many Western men out there who will also not put up with this kind of behaviour.

Sure, it cuts both ways too. A woman should never have to put up with this type of behaviour from a man. We mostly learn from our own experiences, but that doesn't mean we can't learn from others too.

From: Australia South Australia Adelaide @melcyan Time : 2019-11-17 22:15:05 #35

@paulfox1 

 

"I have written over 100 blogs on CLM. Some are extremely positive towards Chinese women"  Could you give me the title of one of these blogs, please? I have read most of your blogs but there must be some that I have missed.

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From: China 山东(shan dong) 济宁(ji ning ) @paulfox1 Time : 2019-11-18 16:41:23 #36


@melcyan

There are actually 142 blogs in my list, although several have not been published, and probably won't be, due to them being just an insy-winsy bit massively conspiratorial.

However, I did enjoy myself reading some long-forgotten ramblings, and I have selected three for you to check-out. Apologies if you've already read them.

Whilst not 100% on the subject of 'women' (I rarely do that from a positive perspective, since I have always left the 'fluffy-stuff' to our friend Imi)

https://blog.chinalovematch.net/blog/article/We-come-to-love-not-by-finding-a-perfect-person-but-by-learning-to-see-an-imperfect-person-perfectly

https://blog.chinalovematch.net/blog/article/Wheres-Mytube

https://blog.chinalovematch.net/blog/article/The-Red-Flag-is-Flying-while-were-all-Dying

From: Australia South Australia Adelaide @melcyan Time : 2019-11-19 15:40:46 #37

@paulfox1

Paul, I have already read these three blogs. I even praised your internet research in the first one in one of the first few comments made on that blog. However, none of the three blogs addresses my previous comment -

 

"I have written over 100 blogs on CLM. Some are extremely positive towards Chinese women"  Could you give me the title of one of these blogs, please? I have read most of your blogs but there must be some that I have missed.

 

If you do end up finding a blog that answers my question then let me know. I can't ever recall a blog where you are talking about one of your own experiences with Chinese women that has left me thinking "those actions and comments from Paul show that he has a high level of respect for Chinese women or  those actions and comments from Paul show that he is extremely positive towards Chinese women."

From: China 山东(shan dong) 济宁(ji ning ) @paulfox1 Time : 2019-11-22 12:28:35 #38


@melcyan

Perhaps we are misunderstanding each other. The series I wrote on Thailand, as well as the series on the different 'types' of women all began with 100% respect.

My point is that I respect EVERYONE until someone gives me cause to no longer respect them.

How can you continue to respect a woman after she steals your phone while you're in the shower, and deletes all your female contacts, including those of your mother, sister, and daughter?

How can you continue to respect a woman when, without ANY reason at all, insists you want to sleep with your female boss (despite there being NO attraction) - simply because she's female?

How can you continue to respect a woman after she openly admits that she is prepared to marry ANY foreigner, simply for money / passport / convenience?

These are the kind of stories that I offer-up in my blogs. Therefore, I fully understand why you get the impression that you do.

From: China 山东(shan dong) 济宁(ji ning ) @paulfox1 Time : 2019-11-29 18:30:42 #39


@melcyan

It's been a few days since my last reply to you, and you seem to have gone quiet on me.

Are you aware of what is known as the 'sacred feminine'?

The Earth herself is considered to not only be a 'living being', but also feminine in nature.

Plant an apple seed and you get an apple tree. That apple tree bears food.

The female is the 'giver-of-life', and deserves respect.

The difference being that 'Mother-Earth' doesn't lie, nor disrespect her admirers

 

From: Australia South Australia Adelaide @melcyan Time : 2019-12-01 07:07:20 #40

"Perhaps we are misunderstanding each other. The series I wrote on Thailand, as well as the series on the different 'types' of women all began with 100% respect."

 

We are definitely misunderstanding each other.  I don't believe that friendships or relationships can begin with 100% respect. Respect builds over time. Respect is earned.

 

Respect is the quality of being admired for your character. When your actions show integrity, nobility, compassion, or other positive qualities respect increases.

 

Relationships often start with 100% hope. That is a very different matter.

 

From: China 山东(shan dong) 济宁(ji ning ) @paulfox1 Time : 2019-12-01 14:28:00 #41


@melcyan

Same 'pig', different lipstick. Trust has to be earned; respect should, IMHO, be afforded to everyone until such time as one has reason not to.

From: China 浙江(zhe jiang) 杭州(hang zhou ) @JohnAbbot Time : 2019-12-01 14:48:52 #42

@melcyan and @paulfox1

OK!  Now that you seem to have become aware that you are both waltzing around 2 different meanings of the word "respect" maybe we'll get to witness a more reasonable discussion on the matter.

Here are the first two that popped up in my request for definitions from Google and I think they are apropos:

1. a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements. (Melcyan)

2. due regard for the feelings, wishes, rights, or traditions of others. (Paul)

In fairness I think that what we are talking about here is really definition 2 since the question or criticism seems to me to really be one of whether or not Paul is appropriately respectful of Chinese women in his comments or blogs or his self described human interractions as they relate to Chinese women.

It seems to me that this all got started around what I would suggest was the question: Does Paul display due regard for the feelings, wishes, rights, or traditions of Chinese women in his interactions with them as we get to view them here on CLM?

It also seems to me there is lots of room for debate over that question so let's do that.

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