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Love one another but make not a bond of love彼此相爱,但不让爱成为桎梏

From: China 湖北(hu bei) 武汉(wu han ) @panda2009 Time : 2013-08-08 22:42:30
Lebanese poet khalil Gibran expressed the importance of independence in the relationship of love and marriage in "The Prophet" . The original is in English. I translate the poem based on Hong Ming's translation.

  Love one another but make not a bond of love:
  彼此相爱,但不让爱成为桎梏:
  Let it rather be a moving sea between the shores of your souls.
  让爱汇成海,波涛在灵魂的海岸间奔流。
  ……
  Sing and dance together and be joyous, but let each one of you be alone,
  一起轻歌曼舞,一起笑声欢畅,但让彼此超然独立,
  Even as the strings of a lute are alone though they quiver with the same music.
  如同鲁特琴的琴弦根根分开,却因同一个和弦而振颤。
  Give your hearts, but not into each other’s keeping.
  献出真心,但并不是要禁锢对方的心灵。
  ……
  And stand together, yet not too near together,
  并肩而立,并不意味着形影不离,
  For the pillars of the temple stand apart,
  因为梁柱也须彼此分立才能支撑殿宇,
  And the oak tree and the cypress grow not in each other’s shadow.
  橡树和柏树也无法在彼此的浓阴下生长。  
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From: China 湖北(hu bei) 武汉(wu han ) @panda2009 Time : 2013-08-11 19:37:09 #1
John,
I'd never thought that you publish this poem today. The day after tomorrow will be Double Seventh Day(Qi Xi). I remember last Chinese Valentine's Day when I talked a lot of nonsense on my blog.
This poem can reflect my present situation. He is busy running about his buisiness, can't move in my city. And I initiated my translation courses, can't go to his city often. This is all my crow mouth to blame. Last Qi Xi I said "I would never get married; I was too old, too sharp,too ugly... " This 七夕, I become 织女. Vega and Altair
in different places.
From: United Kingdom Bristol Easton @RobertB Time : 2013-08-13 07:15:22 #2
@Panda2009
Excellent. We have to remember there is a reason why we are separate from each other. We want to have separate experiences. Still, we want to be together, as in fact we are one. So, marriage, work or life seem to abide by the same rules.
Support and share without hindering.
I think that is said enough, just to add in explanation if any needed:
we do not want to destroy the delicate flower we cherish together.
Go through each other without destroying each other, that is love.
Although I am imperfect I feel perfect in your eyes. That makes me better.
I love you because I am free to choose and that I choose to love you.
If I have to choose to love you then I am no longer free to choose, that means my love is no longer pure.
In other words, if I do not have to love you but I do, then I love you truly.
Sometimes what Newton said and even Chinese philosophy says goes like this:
If you push, you will be pushed. If you chase faster, the target will run away faster.
Sometimes helps to know that in order to achieve desired result and control something or someone then you have to let them be themselves.
Anonymous6941
@Anonymous6941 Time : 2013-08-15 14:21:54 #3
i think Gibran means this

Quote
"When a wizard speaks of love, what he refers to is almost the opposite of what we call love. To us, love is a highly personal feeling; to the wizard it is a universal force. Falling in love for us is a condition that eventually fades; a wizard does not fall in love because he is permanently in the flow of love itself. But the greatest difference has to do with attachment. Attachment arises whenever you say, "I love you because you're mine." This form of love is really an extension of the ego, which always thinks in terms of 'I,' 'me,' mine.'

"You mortals call it love when you feel completely attached to another person," Merlin said. "Your fantasy is either to possess someone completely or to be completely possessed. But wizards call it love when they feel no attachment, no possession."

and 'not bond of love' is this

"Isn't that simply indifference?" asked Arthur.

Merlin shook his head. "Indifference had no energy or life to it. A wizard's love is incredibly alive and flows with the energy of the cosmos. For that to happen you must be like an empty vessel. Mortals are so full of ego that there's room for nothing else. A wizard is completely empty; therefore the universe can fill him with love."

and 'a moving sea', 'spaces' and 'the winds of the heavens' is this

" To the extent you know love, you become love.

Love is more than an emotion. It is a force of
nature and therefore must contain truth.

When you say the word love, you may catch the
feeling, but the essence cannot be spoken.

The purest love lies where it is least expected
--in unattachment."

reference
http://jolitaasmara.blogspot.com.au/2011/12/way-of-wizard-lesson-15-deepak-chopra.html

Love one another, but make not a bond of love:
Let it rather be a moving sea between the shores of your souls.
Fill each other's cup but drink not from one cup.
Give one another of your bread but eat not from the same loaf.
Sing and dance together and be joyous.
But let each one of you be alone,
Even as the strings of a lute are alone though they quiver with the same music.
Give your hearts, but not into each other's keeping.
For only the hand of life can contain your hearts.
And stand together yet not too near together;
For the pillars of the temple stand apart.
And the oak tree and the cypress grow not in each other's shadow.
Let there be spaces in your togetherness,
And let the winds of the heavens dance between you.
Love one another, but make not a bond of love.
(From "The Prophet" by Kahil Gibran)

probably, lol ,
he is not just a poet, he is called a 'Prophet', and it is for something 'larger'
;p
From: China 广东(guang dong) 阳江(yang jiang ) @99moonriver Time : 2013-08-15 16:56:45 #4
@Anonymous6941

woww! I like it!

I mean the Quote u made here, it is magnificent. Thanks!


..."love is incredibly alive and flows with the energy of the cosmos. For that to happen you must be like an empty vessel. Mortals are so full of ego that there's room for nothing else. A wizard is completely empty; therefore the universe can fill him with love."

and 'a moving sea', 'spaces' and 'the winds of the heavens' is this

Love is more than an emotion. It is a force of nature and therefore must contain truth.

The purest love lies where it is least expected --in unattachment."

I think most of the time, our Mortals has kept limiting the connotation of this word "LOVE", or going astray towards another word "ego" or " occupancy", sometimes even worse, tarnishing this word "LOVE" under the guise of "LOVE".

True love should never be a jail, it should be a force or power which u could feel it flowing in its own way, making our hearts peaceful n powerful.
From: China 湖北(hu bei) 武汉(wu han ) @panda2009 Time : 2013-08-15 22:52:16 #5
@Anonymous6941
Thanks for your sharing the complete poem. So I follow you to translate it in Chinese below:
Love one another, but make not a bond of love:
彼此相爱,但不要让成为桎锢:
Let it rather be a moving sea between the shores of your souls.
让爱汇成海,波涛在灵魂的海岸间奔流。
Fill each other's cup but drink not from one cup.
斟满彼此的杯盏,但不要只从一只杯中啜饮。
Give one another of your bread but eat not from the same loaf.
彼此互赠面包,而不是享用同一块。
Sing and dance together and be joyous.
一起轻歌曼舞,一起笑声欢畅
But let each one of you be alone,
但让彼此超然独立,
Even as the strings of a lute are alone though they quiver with the same music.
如同鲁特琴的琴弦根根分开却为同一个和弦而振颤。
Give your hearts, but not into each other's keeping.
献出真心,但并不是要禁锢彼此的心灵,
For only the hand of life can contain your hearts.
因为只有生命之手才能托起你们的心。
And stand together yet not too near together;
并肩而立,也不意味着形影不离,
For the pillars of the temple stand apart.
因为梁柱也需分立才能支撑起殿宇,
And the oak tree and the cypress grow not in each other's shadow.
橡树与柏树也无法在彼此的浓阴下生长。
Let there be spaces in your togetherness,
缱绻难舍,也需留有空隙,
And let the winds of the heavens dance between you.
让天堂的风在你们中间舞动。
Love one another, but make not a bond of love.
彼此相爱,但不让爱成为桎锢。
Anonymous6946
@Anonymous6946 Time : 2013-08-16 11:09:23 #6
shores of your souls
each other's cup
one another of your bread
let each one be alone
the strings of a lute are alone
the pillars of the temple
the oak tree and the cypress
= 2 people in relationship

Love one another
Fill
Give
Sing and dance
Give your hearts
stand together
= give love

not a bond of love
not from one cup
not from the same loaf
not into each other's keeping
not too near together
not in each other's shadow
= but not the mortals call it love
wizards call it love when they feel no attachment, no possession

a moving sea
quiver with the same music
the hand of life
there be spaces
the winds of the heavens
= Because Love is more than an emotion. It is a force of
nature and therefore must contain truth
to the wizard it is a universal force

when Each of the 2 people is fully filled with the purest universal love
they are capable to give love to each other in unattachment,
then NO MORE PSYCHO BEHAVIOURS / DRAMAS

lol
now i am pretty damn sure
;p
From: China 江苏(jiang su) 南京(nan jing ) @shellnong Time : 2013-08-17 11:12:38 #7
看了这首诗,心底很有一番感慨,很想对未来的灵魂伴侣说一句话:

让我随你去,让我随你去,我是真的爱你!
Anonymous6995
@Anonymous6995 Time : 2013-08-20 08:00:33 #8
@panda2009 @99moonriver and all

the concept of no attachment , detachment is in many tradition and cultures with different interpretations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detachment_(philosophy)
http://www.homeoint.org/morrell/buddhism/nonatt.htm

"The Warrior knows the way of the wind.

She loves the wind, but she knows she cannot capture it - she cannot own it.
She can love it, luxuriate in its presence, glory in its energy.
But if she tries to capture it, it becomes something other than what it truly is - it becomes still and stagnant air.
She can never possess it completely - unless she refuses to ever own it - unless she refuses to ever have sovereignty over it.
She can possess it only by letting it be free - by letting it be what it is.

It cannot be otherwise. The Way of the Warrior is the Way of the Wind."

http://www.greatwesternpublishing.org/wayofthewarrior.html

"The highest code of living is detachment. There is no power higher then the power of detachment.
At this stage, nothing he possesses will possess him. He becomes the master of his possessions, rather than being possessed by them. He becomes the master of his universe."
Chin Ning Chu - Thick face black heart

in term of relationship, it can be summarized in an Indian salute 'Namaste'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namaste
http://witchychick.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/namaste-2.jpg

;p
From: China 湖北(hu bei) 武汉(wu han ) @panda2009 Time : 2013-08-20 21:25:26 #9
;p
Salute 'Namaste' to you!
In fact, the more national, the more of the world.
Khalil Gibran, as befitted a great poet and a 'Prophet', his expressions are simple, vivid, and his metaphors are very appropriate. Anyone can understand.
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