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By John Abbot
129177 Views | 41 Comments | 4/6/2012 12:46:33 AM
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#2013-12-15 17:10:40 by kingofhearts5230 @kingofhearts5230

Hi guys,

Yeh, about my story at asianbeauties, *sigh* as above all mentions, everything you need is credits, read/send letters, order a call, chatting as well. it does sound ridiculous. But I'm just a simple man who wants a girlfriend. I remember open/sending and open responds requires 10 credits which is 20 credits to correspond, 15.99 USD and 1 hour chatting is about 60 Credits around 50 AUD

It all starts on August 2012, I went to AB due to curiosity, I found my first girl, however, she told me she's not interested in me, that's fine so I've moved on.

The second girl doesn't want to call me internationally, so I've moved on.

The third girl seems sincere, however, back then, I had very high expectations, she looks normal and plain, when I order a call to her, she was like making fun of me. so I ignored her and moved on.

The fourth girl, oh man, when I order a call to her, I wasn't sure if it's the interpreter or the girl, so my attitude and the tone of voice were pretty bad, which didn't make her feeling happy. I ask her to install skype, then again, there are lame excuses about, I don't have a computer, I've got business errands to go to, I couldn't afford electric bills. I told her to call me internationally, she told me about oh, my phone is locked, need to go to Hong Kong to get it fixed. Call her several times, sometimes she picked up, sometimes simply didn't answer it. so I moved on.

The fifth girl, I've order a call to her, but no one was there, I thought that I've got conned again, so I've moved on.

The sixth girl, she does a lot of damage to me, she is a virgo. she claim to be a doctor from Guangzhou. You see, my major is Japanese, and she sometimes chat with me in Japanese, I want to order a call to her, she said something like, she couldn't pick up the call, she have to wait until the China's national holiday which is another month, so buying credits to contact her... every time, when we chat, it's normally 2-3 hours. I know, very naive and stupid right? When I asked her, will she still love me when I'm broke? she said she will. After I got her phone number and e-mail address, I call her the number she provided to me, it went through twice, other times was " Hi, the person you are calling are switched off, or busy" SMS her 12 times, she only replied once. Send her e-mails, sometimes she replies, and sometimes she didn't even reply at all. And skype, she said something about, the web cam is not working, and/or the mic is not working. it's like you have mic but not cam, if you have cam, but not mic. Sometimes the connectivity were bad too.

When I went back to AB, saw her online, I said to her, so this is where you are? she didn't reply anything, are you there? she went off. After that, I went to home, I've deleted her skype. If she loves me she could have e-mail and call/msg me about why I deleted her skye. However, she didn't. I moved on. After being hurt badly with the 6th girl, I went back to the 3rd girl, we contacted each other with QQ and Wechat, but now, we hardly contacted each other.

The seventh and the eighth girl didn't have the intention of going to Australia, so I moved on.

The ninth girl wants me to buy her teddy bear and flowers, when I checked the photo about confirming that she received the orders. It didn't look like her at all...

The tenth girl was a nurse, back then I was a bit suspicious, how can she talk to me online when she's working in the hospital? and she was very reluctant to talk to me at QQ (Chinese messenger). Call her the number she has provided to me, sometime she picked up, however, we didn't talk very long, sometimes I sent her e-mail, she claims to be sick, so she didn't reply me back. Tried to call her on new year's eve, no answer....

In conclusion, I have correspond 10 girls last year, got scammed about 6,000 AUD.

As you can see AB was very addictive, there were a lot of drop-dead gorgeous ladies claiming that they are interested in you, want you to be their boyfriend and husband right?

Last year, I was absolutely clueless about what's going happening on AB. Then 2 months ago, I created another account to test the girls that I had corresponded last year. The responses are the 4th girl was copying and pasting about her introduction of her profile. So I've finally realise that she is fake. 9th girl claims that she don't know me, so I've ignored her. 10th girl's answer was confusing, so I've ignored her again.

Then my 11th girl, I've known her about 2 months. it all starts on October 2013, I've order a call to her on the 18th of October, I was about to get her e-mail and phone number, she told me that we can contacted each other on QQ, so I've agreed. She only went there once which is on 21st of October. Then when we agreed to talk again at QQ on the next day, she claims that she's on the business errand at Guangzhou and she forget the QQ number and password, so the only way to contact her is... yeh u know it AB...

Everytime I've asked her when she's coming back home, she said on Sunday. However, when I asked her again on Sunday, she claims oh no, the work has not finished yet, still needs another week. I've been very tolerant about her, so I've said nothing. Then when I've realise that I've almost bust my credit card, I told her stop writing letters on AB, she was like "Honey, don't you like my letters" I told her that I can't afford it anymore, I'm trying to be more reasonable and tolerant as I can.

On the 18th of November, I've order another call to her, to tell her my e-mail address, because this is starting to get ridiculous, during the call, after telling her my e-mail address, she went dead, the interpreter was like, lady are you there, lady, hello? gentleman are you there, yes. Then the interpreter attempts to retreive her back. I have no choice to said to the interpreter, it's all right, I'll hang up now.

After hanging up, I found her online, I asked her what happened, she claims that her mobile went dead. I'v asked her why she couldn't give me her number, she claims that she wants to save money for me, I've asked her to activate the international call service, she claims that Guangzhou don't have telephone company. Deep down I was like "BS" she just give me a lot of lame excuses, the web cam was broken, I have been promoted so I'll be very busy. I asked her about the 163 e-mail, why does she can only send me e-mails at night time, but not daytime? she claims that the company computers were not able to send private e-mails, what about phone? oh, the emails be read on mobiles, can't send mails. She also said, it's very hard for me to write private e-mails, I'm used to write in AB... I told her to stop, and explaining why I don't like AB. Then 2 weeks ago, she said something about her father doesn't agree to both of us. I told her that I will proven her father that I'm sincere about her. I told my family and friends about this and they said you got conned. Then yesterday, when my iphone can't login AB anymore, I went to google and type asianbeauties and I found this blog. Then I believe that AB is a scam. I went back to AB and ask her why she is cheating and conning my feelings, then I scold her, don't fark around with me, I've seen what you have done. She replied back, are you even a gentleman, I hate people who scolds and verbally abuses people. Then we broke up. That's another 6000-7000AUD down the drain.

Yes, is just like an illegal drug that burns your wallet, credit card and your true heart as well.

My heart and credit card went broke again. Let this be a warning to all people who still believes in true love on internet.


#2014-01-02 14:27:23 by anonymous8597 @anonymous8597

I guess since we're piling on AB, I might as well too. But my story has a bit of a twist....
First I joined AB and I set up a few profiles with similar but different descriptions and fake pictures. Then I would send "Love Notes" (free) to the same ladies. I discarded any responses where the lady sent the same letter to each of my profiles. One lady, a nurse, was a bit of a standout, and I started emailing and chatting with her regularly. I even exchanged postal addresses with her, but she never got any real letter I sent. But, I have a distinct name and job, so during a chat I gave her some terms to search. Even on Baidu, her search found my LinkedIn profile. So I put my email address in my job title on Linked In, and suddenly we were sending direct emails, but only for 1 week. then suddenly, she was gone. She missed several scheduled chats, and so I emailed AB support to inquire if she was no longer a member. After a week, they emailed me that they had contacted her, and her hospital had sent her to Ya An to help with earthquake victims. Then she emailed that she found an internet cafe and we could chat there on weekends. so still communicating, but much less frequently. Then she sent me a letter that she had hooked up with a doctor, so she would not communicate with me any more. Sad, but then I moved on. But this is when I started to think that some of the ladies there were fake. I stopped emailing, and would only chat, because that was at a 1 credit per minute rate, but you get 3 minutes free. so in 3 minutes, I would give them the search terms and if they couldn't find me, I knew they were fake. Usually, it would take more than 3 minutes, but not much. And I managed to get 5 or 6 ladies to exchange emails. But most would only send one or two.
Finally, i met one lady on the chat who gave me her skype id, right away. Before I could even ask her to do the search to find my email. In fact, she gave me her skype ID right away, the first thing she typed in the chat, so if a 3rd party is doing the blocking, they couldn't have known it was her ID until it was too late.
With her, I skyped so I saw her live, without makeup. and she emailed me other pictures of her. Definitely one of the most beautiful ladies I have ever seen. Even though I didn't spend a single dollar to get to know her on AB, she was travelling on business quite a bit and I couldn't communicate with her very often. During her absence, I stumbled upon CLM and started liked it much better - seemed far more value for my $
And even though it was not costing much money now to communicate with her, I did notice that she seemed a little cold and was not really committed to me, maybe because we had a conversation very similar to Paul Fox's example in his Lady Type 3 Blog, but I was less co-operative than Paul. So, I started to concentrate on CLM ladies and found a special one. I did email the AB lady about this site, and she joined. And used several of the pictures from her AB profile. Since I've seen her on web cam, I know these pictures are accurate, and several of you agree because she has many "In Love" and "Stunning" ratings. Too bad she is a Paul Fox Type 3, and I've moved onto a special CLM lady. I have communicated with her a few times since she joined, and I hope her attitude has changed some here. I've noticed she has no "gold digger" ratings, and recently she went invisible, so maybe she has found her Mr. Right.
In the end, I'm extremely happy with the lady I have met on CLM, and I wish I could get back the $1000-$1200 that I spent on AB, mostly with the nurse.

#2014-01-12 07:50:15 by kwe @kwe

I personally feel it's important to start naming names so that we all know who the "bad" ones are, who the fake people are on that AB website.

The name on the profile said "Jiaolei(Laura)" and her "interview" page noted that her nickname is "Lala." Since I speak fluent Chinese and can type Chinese, I thought I had a chance to meet a real lady there.

I typed, "Your name is very nice. It sounds lovely."

Her response: "Really? You mean my Chinese name?"

I replied: "Your name Lala."

"Lala? What does that mean?"

"Your interview page said that."

"Laura? Lala? Are they the same thing?"

"No, your interview page said that."

"Oh, yeah, haha. I thought you meant Laura and Lala have the same meaning. I guess I'm not that smart."

THAT should have been a red flag right there. How can someone not know her own nickname? I overlooked that, and then I continued chatting with her for 20 minutes before I had to attend a work meeting.

Later on, when I logged into my account, I saw SEVENTEEN letters from her--all on that same day. Each letter costs 10 credits to open, and she was basically saying the same things in each of those letters, garbage like "It was so nice to chat with you," "where are you now? I don't see you online," "let's chat online again soon. i'm waiting for you," etc. Her letters were all at least 2 paragraphs long but essentially said the same thing. The other red flag was that each of the photos she attached was titled "s" or "ss." Who does that? (All of the photos are different pictures but each one is titled "s" or "ss.")

Ultimately, I got on the chat system again and explained to her in Chinese, in her own language, that I would order a phone call so that we could exchange contact information. I explained, clearly, that this letter system and chat system wouldn't work because of the heavy costs. She agreed to do it. And yet the next day she sent me another FOURTEEN letters on that website.

After we spoke on the phone through the AB system--I didn't need a translator since I spoke Chinese but still the phone call was pricey--she sent me an email. One sentence. That was it. So, in the letters through that site she sent at least 1-2 paragraphs. In this email she sent 1 sentence. Obviously she is sending form letters through that website. And then soon enough she sent more letters through that website. And I see her online on that website every single day. She is also on there for very strange hours every day. I sometimes do meetings with bosses in China so I am familiar with the time difference. I see her online on that website from 11 pm to 7 am or so China time. That is a major red flag. This means Jiaolei(Laura) is not a real lady. She is either a slut or someone paid to chat with men online. There is a lot more to this Jiaolei(Laura) but I want to tell you these points for now to let you all know not to be tricked by her. She is definitely a scammer. Avoid her at all costs.

#2014-04-09 15:06:00 by zhaozikun @zhaozikun

as one of my friend is married a good man from USA. Under her suggestion, I am here. Happy to read this article and feel lucky that I am not on Chnlove and Asianbeauties. However, since October, 2013, it takes me a lot of time and efforts to meet a good man. It is understandable as it is hard to meet soul mate in real life. I believe that if I keep on search and be sincere and honest, I can meet my Mr. Right at the right time. Good luck to every sincere lady who are on the way to search marriage. thanks for sharing this article. learning.

#2014-06-25 22:33:26 by anonymous10656 @anonymous10656

You send me your email address, I will attach my evidence that Asian Date is a Fraud. I'm very stupid for being on the site as long as I had, and there is nothing real, over two years on the site and spent thousands of dollars. Right now I want to take them down. What they are doing needs to be prosecuted

#2014-06-26 15:22:27 by JohnAbbot @JohnAbbot

@anonymous10656 - please check your registered email for a message from me and respond to that message. I'll review what you send and then get back to you in detail.

Thanks, John

#2014-10-02 05:28:07 by anonymous12115 @anonymous12115

Hi there, I too was scammed by AsianBeauties. Now they changed their site name into "AsianDate". After reading this, I knew that scam site intentionally was to drain every man's money. I really want a perfect girl somewhere in China, but my Chinese language is extremely poor. Hey I'm asian, I know nothing about China nor its cities.

That Asian scam site should be terminated for scamming our money and impersonating all females' profile in China! I dont think I can find the same girl in China in CLM...

One of my friend also was scammed. He went to the bank and tried to get back his money from that scam site, but his money kept going back to that scam site! Like this, he's got his money back to his account, however, it keeps saying "transaction reverse" to that scam site!

Is it possible you go to the bank and try to ask to get your money back, but cant get it back?

#2014-12-25 01:31:33 by dedicated2 @dedicated2

I have to say I signed up with Asian Date unfortunately before I found this amazing site. My experience with Asian Date has been horrifying to say the least. When I found out it was nothing but a scam it took me 4 separate requests to be canceled out of their system. Going back and forth with there so-called administrator through this ridiculous process finally got canceled somewhat but not exactly. After being coerced to stay aboard numerous times. (They Want Your Money)

I have still been receiving ladies that constantly send what they call letters non stop. 5 to 10 per day. This is very annoying and disturbing. One lady in particular pingping (angel). 33 keeps sending me flat out porn messages that are quite shocking to put it mildly. After all I was told various times that this particular site screens all their members and interviews each lady before they are excepted in their pathetic system. (Phony Ladies)

It has been quite the experience to say the least!
China Love Match makes Asian Date look ridiculous
Oh' and by the way they send out their response back with just like Mr. John Abbot has expressed in his post.

All I can say is BEWARE of this total scam site indeed....

Your's truly,

Michael Bonham

#2015-02-01 08:35:49 by suggie @suggie

Yes, Asian Beauties / Asian date / and associated site are scammers. I have spend a to of money communicating with ladies and receiving and sending emails. I have arranged telephone conversation through the site to exchange information which cost a fortune, however when the information is exchanged, I found that the number is uncontactable and there are no reply to my emails. This has been the case with all the women contacted.

#2015-02-15 22:26:39 by anonymous12960 @anonymous12960

heard before

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